Aaron & Chris On Drugs & Iraq

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Chris:

sounds about right...probably, bush understands drugs better than kerry anyway...I have this feeling lately that Kerry is really no answer...it might actually be better to leave bush in and get people even more pissed off so that 2008 becomes revolution time...maybe bush will pass some (more) horrible rights reducing legislation over the next 4 yrs and prove what a bad move it was to vote him in...

the charlie rose show today had the guy from Carter's admin that wrote the book with the approximate title "A choice: Global Domination or Global Leadership" he was pretty good, thinks that our best bet is to pull out of Iraq and form some kind of coalition with moderate middle east nations...

you know what? I really could fucking care less about any of this...it doesn't matter who's in there now or ever, we are past the point of no  return on big business, etc...there is no possible way around it, the only thing we can do is be good  and work to incorporate some sense, awareness, love into corporate domination...yeah good luck...but the global world is getting smaller and maybe this stuff is clashing with the deeper vibration of life, but it is irreversible and we need to learn to ride it while  staying true to ourselves on the human to human (being to being) level...is it bad to say change is hopeless? that we are hoping for the wrong thing?

Because we are fooling ourselves to think that people like Kerry can help...he's part of the same bullshit and I certainly don't have faith in him to make any progress...when was the last time you saw a politiician (or anyone for that matter) that made you feel like, "I'd follow him to the end of the world!"?  There isn't anyone out there that instills that sense of  "This guy is Amazing!"

Sorry - just feeling a little depressed about the state of things....

chris

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Aaron:

Your frustrations are shared by many people.

As far as Iraq goes, obviously it was stupid to go in there in the first place.  People will argue that the whole mission wasn't thought through enough.  Well duh!  It was never intended to be thought through.  The only thought by bush was ride the new wave of fear about terrorism. Bush could take care of all his personal business with the middle east under the guise of terror.  and who's to say that the bush admin wasn't more directly responsible with the attack on American soil.

So now we are left with the bi-product of bush's greed... we can't stay or leave Iraq.   If we stay, American soldiers die, Iraqis die, oil burns, containments are spewed.  If we leave, holy shit that would create a HUGE civil war not to mention all the middle eastern countries attempting to move in for the feast of land/oil and so on.  Of course the USA won't let anyone else get the oil.

If you think about it, IRAQ is really a plastic country.  It was created by the British during WW I.  The USA has been controlling the leadership since the 50's.  Unfortunately one of their monkeys started fighting back (Saddam) and now we are having to fry the area to make a point. It's really quite fucked.  It is sort of like Michael Jackson's plastic surgery.  One mistake and now we keep trying to fix it and it just gets uglier and freakier.

I really feel that we have to take the less of two evils.  This is not to say that Kerry is really less evil than Bush, but his priorities will have less effect on the environment.  That's the bottom line.  Some of the shit that Bush allows now is pretty much irreversible.

Kerry's wife owns the Heinz company, right?  Look at all the stuff that Heinz does (sends work off to mexico and other countries).  If you really look at it, it makes some of Kerry's policy look quite hypocritical.

AS of late their has been huge comparison between the Roman Empire andthe USA.  I'm not  going to try to type it out right now, but the Roman Empire obviously peaked  out with Julius and then later with Octavius (Augustus).  The fall of the empire was due to all the greed and so forth, but what lead up to the fall was war.  There are some very amazing parallels between the two.  History repeats itself.  Perhaps we just need to read some history books to find out what's going to happen?

aaron

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snorkel's picture

I agree with Chris. Let American's have 8 years of this Monster, they deserve it.

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